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The Sue With the Goats's avatar

I agree with nearly everything, except about insisting they dress like men. As long as they stop pretending to be women, acknowledge they're men, stay out of women's spaces, stay out of women's sports, stay out of the conversation, etc., I don't care if or why they want to wear a dress or makeup.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

I understand where you're coming from, but these are men with incessant perversions, a total lack of shame, and knowledge that society coddles them. They are essentially children who need to be given clear boundaries.

I used the analogy of a floodgate in the post to illustrate this. Once you tell an autogynephile or cross-dressing homosexual that he can dress however he likes, then the floodgate is open. He will want to flaunt in public, dance for children, eventually invade women's spaces, etc. There will be no stopping it because that is their nature. It will end with them demanding pronouns, committing crimes and going to women's prisons, sports--everything.

There are males that walk around with long hair, nail polish, etc. I used to see male emos or goths around. They weren't a problem, but this wasn't a sexual perversion for them. It was a phase, and nobody really cared because they weren't destroying girls' sports.

I don't mean we can pass laws at the city, county, state, or federal levels. This is a medical scandal, so this is the approach that should be taken is at the therapist, doctor, health provider, etc. level. Usually these men seek therapy or treatment, and this is the approach that should be taken and told to them.

I'll give you an example of what I mean. For certain people with issues like binge eating disorder or diabetes, they must avoid donuts. A donut with high sugar can be a trigger food for a binge eater or it could result in a problem for a diabetic. Donuts cannot be banned from sale for people who don't have problems with those issues, but doctors tell binge eaters and diabetics that they must not eat them because of their particular issues.

That is how I view male perverts, autogynephiles, cross-dressing homosexuals, etc. who have these particular issues. They have to be told "NO" because the floodgate is opened and there will be no end to their stupid behavior. It's just their particular nature, and that is why we see the behavior and stupidity everywhere.

I mean the large fake breasts shop teacher in Canada, the cross-dressers who want to dance for children, Phil Illy at Genspect with his book--it will never end. They have to be told no. There is nothing else that will work.

I would apply this to all three of the men I address in this post. They need to stop cross-dressing, get haircuts, stop wearing makeup, as directed by doctors, the same doctors who prescribe the estrogen right now. That is where the problem will be solved. It must be done.

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Amusings's avatar

You know the doctors will never do that because men like this (or women who wish to do this in the opposite direction) are permanent patients. Permanent patients mean permanent profits.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

This western notion of whatever you want to do is up to you, do you, doesn't take into account that you can only do you if you live on an island by yourself. When you live within a society, what you do influences and affects society.

This current dire situation didn't come from nowhere. It came from individuals who liked dressing up as women and wearing makeup getting together and deciding they wanted legal rights to enable them to go further and be actually called 'women' and to do what they wanted to do and for everybody to accept it. Then it moved on to expanding the 'do you' notion, to our children.

That's how 'influence' works in a society and in strong, traditional societies and cultures this scenario that has happened in the West could never take root because they have strong lines between male and female. They understand nature and what works and what doesn't. They also understand man's inherent weaknesses and perversions and how they need to keep that dark part of human nature in check, for the ultimate good and safety of society.

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A Sane Society's avatar

That's so on point. Exactly, the modern progressive has forgotten that society and culture might actually have a function, not just being a medium to express our 'true selves', which is an attitude that inevitably becomes decadent. People and society need some constraints.

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Absolutely. Spot on!🎯

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Stephanie's avatar

I loved your point (and actually laughed out loud at the absurdity) that no reputable organization would hire or use as a spokesperson someone who claims to know they are lying to themselves but still has certain disorders.

Keep up the great writing.

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Hazel-rah's avatar

PREACH

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Sometimes I even see people I admire refer to "reasonable trans people"--it's not going to work!

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Nicki M.'s avatar

They are just men that have a perverted mind and need mental help support in fighting their inner demons and mental perversions that they are compulsively acting out.

There is no freedom or 'true authentic self' in being held hostage to one's inner mental perversions.

Nor should this movement have sought to bully society into accepting these perverted ways of thinking and acting, as the norm.

The whole thing has been steeped in pure evil, even getting children involved.

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Andy's avatar

These men are autogynephiles (spellcheck tells me it’s not a word) who portray themselves as caricatures of women. Misogynists.

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Jenny Poyer Ackerman's avatar

Brilliant. Now will someone please tell Bari Weiss and Ben Ryan?

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cara's avatar

TRUTH

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

The "reasonable trannies" are the worst. At least the completely insane ones are consistent

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Jorge's avatar

TOTALLY DELUSIONAL AND MENTALLY ILL

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Shrinking Violet's avatar

Thank you for saying all this. I agree with every word. The trans madness needs to stop. All of if. Back into the closet, troons!

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Evangeline's avatar

Everything Blaire does seems performative.

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Lila Jones's avatar

Great insights - thank you. I have a serious question. How could "detransitioners" refer to themselves and still continue to be heard? Of course saying I can't be a detran because I was lied to and there is no such thing as "trans" there is only child abuse and child mutilation is BOLD. Would it work and have impact (in your estimation)?

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Yes, I think it would be extremely helpful to have people like Chloe Cole or Kayla Lovdahl (who are both suing their hospitals and former doctors) to say there is no such thing as "detrans" because there is no such thing as "trans," and instead they are survivors. Survivors of medical abuse, mutilation, lies, etc. I think that would work best, especially since it's true. None of these girls ever "transitioned" because nobody does (even if they pass). They are survivors of lies and abuse.

I see it that way because this is primarily a linguistics battle. This is why proponents focus so hard on forcing language change to use pronouns, to use "trans"woman, etc. because they know it is really about forcing people to tell lies. If people simply stop using the words, the whole scam can end. I think "detrans" is part of that.

Obviously, I can't force someone like Chloe Cole to say this, but I think if random people like me start this on Substack, it can spread and it may eventually reach her. If you start, someone else may see it and then start as well. That's how a culture is changed.

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Lila Jones's avatar

Kat, I really appreciate your insights here. This is a powerful speaking point. I can't stand using the words gender or "trans" this or that. But these detransitioners are a potent and shocking wake up call to those who don't have skin in the game and these young people are having impact on politicians. And so to move the language away from "detrans" and to be surivivors of medical harm. I think this is a powerful language shift. You took this further than I have gone and I am really grateful. Thank YOU.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Thanks!

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Gerda Ho's avatar

Your writing is both insightful and bold! I like that ! Take no prisoners! This ideology is powerful and needs to be fought with equally strong weapons.

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TrentonUK's avatar

Thankyou excellent point.

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Jenny Poyer Ackerman's avatar

You’re not random, Kat. 💪🏻

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Lol thanks!

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Kat, I know this is an old thread but the content is excellent (in my humble opinion) and the talking points still very relevant today.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Hey, thanks! I appreciate your reading it. Check out the other posts too

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Certainly will. I'm already a new subscriber :)

As an aside, I haven't been on Substack for about a year but I'm sure you could edit one's own comments eg correct typos, etc. Have they removed that feature now?

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

No, you can still edit

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Nicki M.'s avatar

Oh, ok. Thanks for confirming. That's interesting. When I press the 3 dots that presents a menu, edit is not amongst the options anymore. Maybe I need to upgrade.

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Sufeitzy's avatar

That was a tour-de-force!

It is utterly simple, really. These people have a sex delusion and there are no “good” delusional setups. The response is not hard, affirming the delusion harms them and people around them, don’t do it. Everything emanates from those ideas.

Some trans-delusional I have known are quite smart, and interesting, they have a knack for re-inventing the world around them, and can be fascinating. But when they speak of sex I just turned off.

I’ve known alcoholics too. Some have the delusional belief they can control their alcohol consumption, some know that such a feeling is delusion, and they need help to manage it, perpetually. I don’t serve alcoholic martinis.

You would have a hard time having a child in the care of an addict, one who doesn’t believe they were an addict. Or an anorexic. Or an alcoholic. There are endless variations, and here’s the catch.

Folie à deux. When two people share a delusion, an emitter and receiver. It can halt when the people are separated, but what you don’t want is “folie communique” where the transmitter in long contact with many communicates the “folie”.

What we see everyday of course is the “a deux” model - “harms those around them”. It does take quite some resistance.

To me it’s not the dress, the makeup - I took was around goth kids and drag queens, but they were male and didn’t believe otherwise.

It’s the constant lie. And the way everyone around them must walk very carefully and think is this idea real, or is it the delusion.

And it is a delusion, some learn to control it. Some don’t. Operating as a woman is not controlling it, that’s the problem. And that’s what we are led to believe

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Kitty Finesse's avatar

Why do so many ex-military transition?? What is that about.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

This is an excellent observation.

"Sara" Higdon is an example of this. These guys usually call themselves "transexual" (not like those crazy transgenders!), and claim to be conservative and sometimes some type of religious. They're also usually "libertarian," which means they're not smart enough to think of a way to defend their stupid behavior.

Did they realize they are failures as men, so they try this as a consolation because they're crazy? Is it a form of untreated mental problems? Or are they just losers desperate for attention?

Maybe it's all of those reasons. The fundamental issue here is that they lack shame, which is a major problem with these men.

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Kitty Finesse's avatar

I think you’re on to something here. It’s something I’ve been wanting to investigate further and potentially write about.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

You should do that, it's a relevant topic.

"Sara" Higdon is a good place to start, as he is one of those who says he knows he's a man (how can he "feel like" a woman then?) and actually appears in public for "Gays Against Groomers" sadly. I used to run into a lot more of these types when I used Twitter, and I don't anymore.

Another is Alex "Alana" McLaughlin. He has admitted he was sexually abused by a man as a child, which is always a reason. Another is Fallon Fox. Also, lots of these men are just crazy, something to keep in mind.

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A Sane Society's avatar

And philosophers.

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A Sane Society's avatar

Great post. Related is everyone pointing out how they have trans friends. If you haven't seen the deleted Little Britain 'my black friend' sketch, it's a perfect summary of the sentiment.

As if your friend group makes a difference to how rational your thinking is.

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Wes Iddings's avatar

It's very telling that the acronym for Gays Against Groomers is GAG. How appropriate is that!

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eye&beam's avatar

This is the only correct position on the matter.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Yes! Nobody grants concessions to schizophrenics, anorexics, or white people who think they're black. It should be no different to a man who "feels like" he's a woman. It's a delusion, and nothing more.

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Lisa Simeone's avatar

As I've been saying for years:

If Eddie Izzard is a woman, then Rachel Dolezal is black!

People, of course, go apoplectic at that, especially people who are all aboard the trans train. "But but but, it's different!" they sputter.

No. It's not.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

But Blaire White had done more to expose Woke transgender scam than many regular people, because they've been too scared to speak up against trans dogmas, and Blaire or Robert never was scared. So if he wants to wear make-up and stuff I don't mind same as I don't mind drag shows for adults because it's an art, not an agenda.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

He doesn't just wear makeup.

He changed his name. He changed his birth certificate. He went to the doctor and said he's in the wrong body, which means he takes estrogen, which means it involves health care and legal policy. He got his passport changed to "female" instead of "male." He got thousands of dollars of plastic surgery on his face, chest, body (except for his penis and testicles, of course).

HE IS THE PROBLEM. HE IS THE WOKE PROBLEM. HE IS THE AGENDA.

If he wasn't so scared, why doesn't he stop playing dress up and take that stupid weave out of his head?

Picture floodgates in your mind holding back a flood. You can't open the floodgates and let out the flood only a few inches. All of the flood will burst out and it won't stop just because you want to let out only a little bit.

He is the issue. If you let him call himself "Blaire" and then say "Well, he's not woke!" you cannot stop the rest of the problem. Little kids will be affected because that's the goal. He is the problem. He's a man in drag in public because he's mentally ill--that's the agenda.

Robert White is the problem. The whole thing must be rejected because there is no stopping this.

You don't need to affirm anorexics' delusions to stop anorexia. You don't need to affirm schizophrenics' delusions to stop schizophrenia. I'm not going to tell Robert White that he's not "woke" (he is the problem) to stop the "trans" lie. He should be in a mental hospital, not praised in public.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Well, with all respect I have to disagree. First I believe you're too strict - since we're losing the battle against Woke TRAs, we can't discard potential allies because they're 'not pure' enough. Also, this mindset stinks of Wokeism actually - it's usually the Woke who are so radical that cast away anyone who is 'not woke' enough for them. However, the Woke at least can afford this strategy because they're winning. We, however, cannot afford this purism since, again, we're losing the battle.

Second, yeah, mayhaps Blaire-Robert is delusional, and so what? Does he harm anyone? Does he penetrate women safe spaces and sports, does he groom children? Nope, moreover he stands against all of this shit just like us, so how come he's the problem?

Yeah, he takes hormones. But again, he harms HIS OWN body with them, not anyone else. And it's his body and his choice. We can't deprive ADULT people from their bodily integrity and from their right to dispose of their body however they wish. Hence, I don't really believe we can - or even should! - ban all sex surgeries and hormones FOR ADULTS. To ban it on minors - for sure, but on adults - nope, that would be a grave infringement on basic human rights and freedoms with far-reaching consequences. For example, if you think it's OK to ban sex surgeries on adults, why not to ban abortion as well then? Or not to coerce people into vaccination in the contrary? Again, we can't interfere with adults decision on their bodies. All we can do is to discourage them from doing so and to fight trans propaganda so less people would fell prey for it.

Thirdly, if we can't ban sex surgeries for adults, even less we can ban men from wearing a female dress. It's again a personal freedom what to wear. If we start to ban men from wearing dresses, why not to ban women from wearing trousers? Or not to force women into wearing hijabs and burkas as Islamists are doing? Again, we cannot dictate to people how to dress and what to wear. And, as long as men in drag aren't forcing themselves on kids or aren't trying to pass as women in sports and bathrooms and prisons, etc., I don't see the problem with them.

You might say that allowing men in drag in public would lead to all abovementioned as well. But this is baseless and far-fetched claim. It's the same as to claim that legalization of same-sex marriage would lead to legalization of pedophilia, or that legalization of abortion would lead to legalization of murder. We should be VERY careful before drawing such parallels and making such far-fetched comparisons.

Again, drag is as old as time. Male actors used to play female roles in Ancient Greece and in Shakespearean times. There were popular drag shows in gay clubs in late 20th century as well. And never drag was a problem, and never men in drag tried to groom kids. This shit began only recently under influence of Woke transgender ideology we both know. It's this ideology which is a problem, not men in drag.

Now, as to 'affirming Blaire's delusion'. Well, first of all, if he himself admits he's a man, I don't think he's delusional. He well realizes who he is, and all his hormones and dresses and name are just well-elaborated masquerade. Secondly, if you don't want to encourage even this masquerade, no one forces you to. But you can't affect other people's decisions at the same time. So if some people want to call Robert Blaire, I guess it's their choice as much as much as his, and we can't deprive responsible adults from their basic freedom of choice when it doesn't harm anyone.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

If Robert White RATIONALLY KNOWS that he's a man, then how can he FEEL LIKE he's a woman? If he KNOWS he's mentally ill, why did he get breast implants and lip filler?

Imagine this with any other mental illness. Imagine a 70 pound anorexic saying "I know I'm not fat, but I'm still starving myself because I feel fat. Don't worry, I'm not woke and delusional like the other anorexics! You need me as an ally!"

Robert White is harming people because you are defending him now and it will lead to more trannies because the line cannot be drawn. If you open the floodgates of crazy, there will be no stopping it and children will be targeted. That is the point.

When Robert goes to the doctor and says "I'm in the wrong body!" he needs to be told NO just like a doctor would say to a schizophrenic. He's mentally ill.

This is not a matter of allies or Woke TRAs. The whole thing is a lie. The whole thing must be rejected. It's not "too strict." It's the truth, and it's the only thing that will work.

If Robert wanted only to wear dresses, then we wouldn't be talking about this. But it's not just that. Men will never stop at just dresses. It's laws, sports, prisons, healthcare, including estrogen which Robert takes. It will never end.

The whole thing must be stopped. There are no "cool" trannies just like there are not "cool" anorexics.

Yes, we can stop adults. Doctors stop adults from doing all kinds of things. No adults can get liposuction if they weigh 80 pounds. No adults can force others to call them Napoleon if they hear voices in their head. This is mental illness.

Making excuses will not work, and TERFs like me will win the battle. Nothing else will work, and if you make excuses for trannies like Robert you will lose. It does harm society because his perversion and mental illness is in public and this stupidity then cannot be stopped.

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Mark Patrick's avatar

I agree

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