So if I identify as someone with a flat stomach can I get my insurance to pay for a tummy tuck? It is extremely triggering to me that my tummy is not that of a 20 year old 😭🤪
my daughter and her friends are going to file a lawsuit in their state and claim discrimination for exactly that kind of thing. lol. let’s see if it makes waves. equity of equity isn’t it????
Isn’t this why we invented fashion? We want to identify with someone who is more slim, or more vogue than we currently feel. The “trans” movement has been here since the high heel.
Agreed. My older brother passed from AIDS in 1994...he and others like him paved the way for better acceptance in the years following, including the legality of gay marriage. It infuriates me that the trans agenda is eating away at that progress.
It's forced teaming and coattails. And they need to stop calling laws against transitioning children "anti-LGBT!" 🙄 Nothing about those bills is against lesbians, gays or bisexuals. Own your s***!
Wrong... it's all bullshit. The Trans Deception has no sainted deviants. Gender dysphoria is a lie to create the Gender Industry. Transgenderism is a Corporate Brand.
If you believe “this person…is transgender,” which is what you said, I’m trying to figure what his original gender was in your eyes. How do you define a man? And if you believe he’s no longer that but now a woman, can you also please define exactly what a woman is?
I do not believe that transgender people become the opposite sex or gender. I believe this person is a man. I define transgender as someone who prefers to dress as, and imitate the behavior of, the opposite sex. I object to removing the most obviously objectionable people from the category in order to make the category appear more sympathetic. A woman is an adult female.
Someone who dresses as or imitates the opposite sex did not enter a category known as "transgender."
They're still their own sex. Men in dresses, men who do more feminine things like listen or not commit violent crime.
Even using the word is an admission that it exists--it does not because it cannot. Just call them men because the language is the battle. Don't use it and you've won.
he is a revolting specimen of entitled male. He makes even the most disagreeable "karen" seem reasonable. That disingenuous smile is sick making. Repulsive man
she is probably desperate for something to turn him into who she hoped he was going to be when he was her little boy, rather than the frightening narcissist he has actually turned into. Like if “the problem” is that he was born in the wrong body her story might get to have a happy ending, too.
Yes, I can actually see how desperation could result in someone hedging their bets on such a fanciful belief.
What's the alternative? Accepting the cold, harsh fact that one's son has developed an extremely misogynistic sexual fetish, I guess. That's assuming the poor woman has even allowed herself to read about autogynephilia. It's probably too much for her consciousness to bear even thinking about.
Destruction of Western civilization. Also goes hand in hand with the acceptance of pedophilia, which is their basic push behind the trans mania. Also, abuse of IVF, surrogacy, etc. Total depravity.
Yep. Once they get across the idea that yes, children CAN make "informed consent" for medical treatments and surgery, then, well, obviously they can consent to sex. It's one of the major goals. You'll never convince me it's not.
Also, to answer your question: No, I see absolutely no difference in the man's face and Adam's apple that could not be accounted for by a little post-surgical weight loss (something that is of course entirely predictable when a surgeon plays around with the throat and nose).
I concur with you about the fact that the only way to successfully deal with this horrible eugenics psy-op in which we find ourselves is to say "No!" to all of it. I have been wondering how so few people seem to be anywhere near troubled enough by this movement and it's depredations for well over five years at this point.
I have been wondering just what it might take to cause enough people to stand up against it and pushback against it properly. The Trump executive orders are all well and good - as far as they go, which I don't think is honestly far enough. Women and children are still suffering, even in the US. Things are much worse in countries like Australia and New Zealand.
I'm afraid the Trump biological sex legislation is just throwing crumbs to the peasants as they distract all of us from implementing Real ID in the USA. Once it's in place, they will roll out their Totalitarian Central Bank Digital Currency. DO NOT COMPLY
Adults capable of giving consent CAN do whatever they please, as long as it is not illegal. If they choose to indulge a compulsion, and can pay for that indulgence, no one can stop them. What they CAN'T do is force everyone to humor them in this compulsion. We need to continue to strengthen laws protecting women-only spaces, and there has been good progress in that regard. More and more folks are feeling confident that they can speak out against the TWAW nonsense and the law and the courts are protecting them. Transsexualism is a form of sexual exhibitionism. We need to continually shout that from the rooftops until the world acknowledges it.
Adults cannot demand lobotomies or endless opioids or endless Adderrall for weight loss if they're anorexics.
This isn't about consenting adults. This is a medical scandal involving healthcare, laws, insurance, money, public policy, lawsuits.
If this boils down to just men wearing dresses, you need to say that and be specific. But that will always devolve into men making more demands, so they need to be told NO just like people who binge food are told to avoid triggers like donuts.
There is no way to pass laws to strengthen women-only spaces if we tell men that they're adults and they can do what they want. What they want to do is be declared women--and it has worked. The problem starts in the doctor's office, which goes back to my original point.
People have all sorts of cosmetic surgery that is dangerous; some even die from it. Being able to take risks with your choices in life is what being an adult is all about. I don't want the government deciding for us what elective surgeries we can opt or and which not. There are people who have had "transitioning" treatments who are doing well and are perfectly happy; trying to ban these treatments for adults is not a wise use of political capital.
Pat, this is not cosmetic surgery, just like lobotomies and removing healthy limbs are not cosmetic. Doctors say no to those all the time.
This man isn't just looking for cosmetics. I explained this in the article, and multiple times previously. He got himself declared a woman legally, changed his documents, and now will cause all sorts of problems.
Now 15% of prisoners in female prisons are male. Do you understand that is inevitable, if you try the ADULTS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT nonsense?
I do not care if there is a small percentage of men who got nose jobs, call themselves Brenda, and are now happy with it.
There were people who got lobotomies and were fine--lobotomies were still banned because the overall damages in aggregate was too great.
So, no, it's not about governments. This is a medical scandal. The medical industry will stop when the lawsuits shut it down.
Until you understand that, you will spin your wheels in the mud with this CONSENTING ADULTS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT AND THEY'RE HAPPY! nonsense.
This will end. The government can tell people what to do everyday, in serious ways. The government comes down like a ton of bricks on people when it wants to. Let's stop acting like we live in libertarian paradise.
And if this is allowed for adults, the children are inevitable. Opening the gate to this flood means it's inexorable.
Yes. People like this guy are attempting to "normalize" and indeed romanticize these surgeries and entire "way of life" by promoting it all over social media, where impressionable children and adolescents spend so much of their time.
It is essentially immersive advertising carried out to a degree and intensity never previously thought possible by modern advertising executives. I find the promotion of these surgeries in such a manner unconscionable. Civilized societies should surely not promote chemical and surgical castration on their young? Considering who the most heavily affected cohorts are (the neurodivergent and young gays and lesbians) only reinforces to me how shockingly devoid of ethics and even basic human empathy those pushing and enabling this entire project are.
The idea of consenting adults having the freedom to do what they will to their bodies AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE is fundamental to the idea of a free people. Advocating for laws that would prohibit certain cosmetic procedures is an extremist position. There is no reason for us to go there; that way lies fascism.
There is a woman trying to make herself into a cat, and a man wanting to look like a snake. These are not things I would do to myself, but as long as they are doing this ON THEIR OWN DIME, it is none of my business nor yours nor the government's.
Men presenting as women doesn't make them women, but it also shouldn't make them the object of abuse of any kind. Tolerance is an important value in a democracy; there will always be folks doing things the rest of us don't consider "normal." But as long as they are not infringing on the rights, safety and opportunities of others we do not have the right to force them into conformity.
Pat, you do not seem to understand how the medical industry works.
Could you walk into a doctor's office and demand a lobotomy to pay for at your own expense? Or unlimited opioids to pay for at your own expense? Or removal of a healthy leg due to apotemnophilia at your own expense?
Cosmetic surgery is not brain surgery, it is an elective surgery which patients ASK FOR. Even relatively limited cosmetic procedures can result in severe adverse effects, even death, because they generally require the administration of anesthesia, which is the most dangerous component of surgery. Are you calling for the prohibition of all cosmetic surgery?
Testosterone is not a schedule 1 drug, like opioids; it is classified as a schedule 3 drug, the lowest level of controlled substances; estrogen is not a classified drug at all. And yes, it is very common for patients to ASK doctors to prescribe specific drugs; it's the reason the pharmaceutical companies spend millions on advertising!
You are failing to make a distinction between types of surgery and drugs, and that is resulting in an over-simplification of the issue.
"BUT (THEY) ARE, BLANCHE!" Transwomen ARE infringing on the rights ( and privacy, safety and comfort) of others, namely women and girls, in formerly single-sex places such as showers, changing rooms, prisons, shelters, crisis centers and lesbian spaces wherein they are not invited.
There are different pathologies going on here. The old school tranny was messed up but generally not attention seeking. There is a whole other category now. It is a weird form of Narcissism. That is the bulk of what we are having trouble with. That has to be stopped. Because they will keep
I agree as personally I haven’t got the energy to worry about these psychic attention seeking vampires…
They look ridiculous at best, and eventually the trend will die out without attention, but we must insist on them not overriding the rights of women and children and stop teaching this ridiculous ideology in school which will only encourage this destructive behaviour…
What makes you think it will "die out". There were "Molly Houses" in the 1700's where men could go and indulge their desire to dress up as women.
Now we have a more extreme version of this where these men want to be able to claim they are "biological women".
It hasn't died out over the centuries, it will be harder to restrain it now.
Given this history the biggest annoyance for me is all the "men's rights activists" claiming this expansion of male power and control is the fault of feminism and the ridiculous notion of the "feminisation of society" which is supposedly causing the destruction of the West.
The Bible is just a collection of re-worked texts from the very ancient Middle East. It is essentially borrowed literature from Sumer and Babylon such as the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh and the Babylonian myth of creation, the Enuma Elish. People who believe that the Bible is in any way the word of some "god" are just ignorant of the true origins of the book.
The gods Enki, Ra, Zeus, and Jupiter bless me the same as your storm god from a random Iron Age desert tribe does. That is, not at all -- they are all equally mythical.
People have the right to mutilate their bodies, as they do with tattoos, piercings, scarification, and other "adornments." I don't want the government telling me what I can do to my body. On the other hand, I don't want to pay for other people's cosmetic surgery.
As for minors, we generally allow parents to make these kinds of decisions for their children, such as deciding against getting their kids vaccinated, even though that might lead to disability or even death.
What we can do is extend the statute of limitations on malpractice suits to the age of 40, strengthen statutes and regulations regarding informed consent, and put limits on the parental immunity doctrine which prohibits children from suing their parents. Parents who do not exercise due diligence in health care decisions for their children should be subject to lawsuits.
I don't want my insurance premiums to subsidize Perverts' Fetish Makeovers, do you?
Most common surgery for men LARPing as lesbians is Breast Implants so they can stare at their own tits while watch themselves jack off in front of a mirror
Adults cannot do whatever they want when it involves healthcare, insurance, laws, public policy, money, lawsuits.
This isn't about people just being left alone. We're way past that, and it's completely inane to pretend like this is about "consenting adults." That's what lead to all of this.
Most insurance policies don't cover elective cosmetic surgery, and once it becomes plain to insurance carriers that "affirming care" is not evidence based medicine, I think we will see these drug and surgery interventions dropped from coverage.
If this is recorded as a real condition in the DSM as it is, that's not elective cosmetic surgery.
This is covered by insurance, the ACA, even in prison for prisoners.
If you keep repeating adults can do whatever they want, it will remain so. It won't be dropped from coverage by claiming adults are free to do whatever.
Adults cannot do whatever they want. Otherwise, walk into a doctor's office and ask for a lobotomy or unlimited opioids. Watch what happens.
Dream on Pat. Transgender Medicine is a CASH COW for Globalist Technocrats who are sinking billions into artificial womb technology so they can grow their own worker slave drones. They've got an Agenda and they won't be stopped without force. Look how they've taken control of media, Academia, government and medicine to normalize disembodiment and they use lawyers and police to force their anti-human agenda on us. We're going to have to rebel. Start planning how NOW!
I wish that were true, however, insurance pays to circumcised baby boys in the US without blinking and there is "no medical benefit" according to the AAP, so fat chance.
Actually the AAP is officially neutral on newborn circumcision as it has both benefits (decreased risk of HPV & HIV infections, decreased neonatal urinary infections& decreased risk of ballanitis & penile cancer) as well as risks (bleeding & infection at time of procedure, risk of a botched procedure). Both risks & benefits are very small in Western world. So it is left to parents to decide.
Don't complain "there's a man in the Women's Locker Room." Complain "someone in the Women's Lockers is displaying their genitals in a lewd and lascivious manner." Flashing is what they're about anyway.
Honestly, this is exactly the kind of man I’m talking about when I say:
There needs to be a new definition for this paraphilia. The group that has it includes, “flashers”, those dirty men that rub their privates up against you on public transport (clothed) and so forth, and these ⬆️ people.
They actually receive sexual gratification by causing shock, disgust and fear to women. They get off on the look on your face when you realize what’s going on.
“Exhibitionism” doesn’t cover it. The “flashers” don’t get off on feeling the cool night air on their penis, they get off on the visual (and visible) distress they cause to their victims, who are always women and girls. They don’t cause the same distress to males, most of whom would either laugh or sneer. Only to women and girls, and it is done intentionally. Therefore, going out looking and acting like this is a sex crime, and it needs to be treated as such.
Also peepers. That's why transwomen are not satisfied with separate toilets/Locker rooms for themselves or gender neutral. It's voyeurism and exhibitionism. BTW, when flashed, say "that looks like a penis, only smaller!"
There is a category for them: SEXUAL DEVIANTS (they deviate from what is normal). And, what nobody is realizing is that this deviant mindset and behavior is CAUSED by PORNOGRAPHY. Porn addicts descend into increasing levels of sick videos that teach them this sick fetishtic stuff... incest, beastiality, trannyporn, and eventually pedophilia. How about Porn-twisted Perverts as a new category name.
He is such a narcissist. Completely creepy and total autogynophile. Oh, and you’d think he would have done something about those nasty tiny grey teeth.
Yeah because men can step in and take charge in our society with no consequences. I have no idea where the Dad is but other than teaching by example, which clearly didn’t work, there isn’t
A lot that can be done.
Practically though I have treated in my alt
Health practice many people with mental
Disorders successfully. Bi-polar, obsessional disorders, anger issues, panic disorder etc. BUT….real true personality disorders, Psychopathy/NPD/Borderline/Sociopathy etc, I have never seen anyone change. The best I have seen is someone learning their behaviour is causing themselves more harm than good. No real
The point you make about personality disorders is of course perfectly true. I'm sure that guys like Tino by and large have some strain of NPD/ASPD - which should never be affirmed. Ever.
Mental health professionals should be all too well aware of this, so much so that it really does speak to the profits garnered by the medicalisation and reification of transgenderism.
He's an autogynephillic MAN and a fuckin pervert! HE can get as many Frankenstein surgeries as he likes but he will always still be just an unimpressive, castrated MAN. I despise these trannie perverts, they knock me sick and should not be allowed anywhere near women or children!
HE has an OF account, what kind of sick, twisted bastard would pay to see Pennywise getting his little pencil dick out...these freaks all have porn addled brains from watching vile hypno sissy porn! Beyond depraved and fuckin disgusting! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
If one of these demented trannie perverts even tries to enter a female only space I'm using or my daughter then they will be getting a good kick in the fuckin groin, I'm past caring at this stage! Arrest and charge me, couldn't give a flying fuck...been there done that, got the record to prove it!
I'm 5ft11 and trained in MMA so I fear NO cunt, especially not a man in a fuckin dress...fuck them, I really doNOT care anymore! I don't fuck around when it comes to my personal safety and I refuse to share any space with these depraved fuckin AGP freaks.
I always carry a can of deet spray (legal) and a blade in my bag because modern problems require modern solutions! I'm not your typical female either, I'm 5ft11 and trained in MMA so I'm well able to take care of myself and as I said I fear NO cunt. I'm hyper vigilant permanently when out and about nowadays, it's not just these perverts we have to worry about...we also need to protect ourselves against the 3rd World gimmegrant bastards who come from 3rd World shitholes where rape culture is the norm. So as women we need to take our own personal safety seriously and act accordingly. Time to unleash our inner demon hitches from hell sometimes!
I’m not yet convinced that this will stop, at least in a hurry. The key difference bw the other disorders you list and this one, is that fetish is involved, imo. Men’s sexual demands trump all. Ethics out the window. I’d love to hear counter arguments.
So if I identify as someone with a flat stomach can I get my insurance to pay for a tummy tuck? It is extremely triggering to me that my tummy is not that of a 20 year old 😭🤪
Why not--adults can identify and do whatever they want! lol
my daughter and her friends are going to file a lawsuit in their state and claim discrimination for exactly that kind of thing. lol. let’s see if it makes waves. equity of equity isn’t it????
Isn’t this why we invented fashion? We want to identify with someone who is more slim, or more vogue than we currently feel. The “trans” movement has been here since the high heel.
You mean transvestite. Trans is a made-up marketing word that didn't make it's forced appearance in language until the 21st century.
He's delusional and dangerous. Exhibit 46,987 of why I want a divorce between LGB and TQ
Yes, and support for gay marriage is dropping because the association many make between LGB and T. Most people see there is a problem here.
Agreed. My older brother passed from AIDS in 1994...he and others like him paved the way for better acceptance in the years following, including the legality of gay marriage. It infuriates me that the trans agenda is eating away at that progress.
Everything we marched for, these 🍑 🕳s took and then stepped in it!
It's forced teaming and coattails. And they need to stop calling laws against transitioning children "anti-LGBT!" 🙄 Nothing about those bills is against lesbians, gays or bisexuals. Own your s***!
And his Mother is worse!
Ridiculous Deviant #800,254
Wrong... it's all bullshit. The Trans Deception has no sainted deviants. Gender dysphoria is a lie to create the Gender Industry. Transgenderism is a Corporate Brand.
a Mockery of women. he's not transgender nor transexual .. he's a TROLL. and he's online to suck energy
Neither exist!
This person very specifically is transgender. Self-identified. And 'No True Scotsman' has never been persuasive as an argument.
But first explain this: What is a man and what is a woman?
Flip flopping between what and what exactly?
between XX and XY
I don't understand your question and I did not mention flip flopping. Did you mean to direct that to someone else?
If you believe “this person…is transgender,” which is what you said, I’m trying to figure what his original gender was in your eyes. How do you define a man? And if you believe he’s no longer that but now a woman, can you also please define exactly what a woman is?
I do not believe that transgender people become the opposite sex or gender. I believe this person is a man. I define transgender as someone who prefers to dress as, and imitate the behavior of, the opposite sex. I object to removing the most obviously objectionable people from the category in order to make the category appear more sympathetic. A woman is an adult female.
Someone who dresses as or imitates the opposite sex did not enter a category known as "transgender."
They're still their own sex. Men in dresses, men who do more feminine things like listen or not commit violent crime.
Even using the word is an admission that it exists--it does not because it cannot. Just call them men because the language is the battle. Don't use it and you've won.
Mr. Tino is not "transgender." He's just a man.
I'm married to a man who is a soul sucker
Get divorced
he is a revolting specimen of entitled male. He makes even the most disagreeable "karen" seem reasonable. That disingenuous smile is sick making. Repulsive man
(1) he is NEVER removing his penis.
(2) he is NEVER going to stop tormenting his mom. Her tight smile and tired eyes, just: trapped.
The dynamic with his mother is probably the most disturbing aspect of this.
Norman Bates/psycho springs to mind!
she is probably desperate for something to turn him into who she hoped he was going to be when he was her little boy, rather than the frightening narcissist he has actually turned into. Like if “the problem” is that he was born in the wrong body her story might get to have a happy ending, too.
Yes, I can actually see how desperation could result in someone hedging their bets on such a fanciful belief.
What's the alternative? Accepting the cold, harsh fact that one's son has developed an extremely misogynistic sexual fetish, I guess. That's assuming the poor woman has even allowed herself to read about autogynephilia. It's probably too much for her consciousness to bear even thinking about.
Destruction of Western civilization. Also goes hand in hand with the acceptance of pedophilia, which is their basic push behind the trans mania. Also, abuse of IVF, surrogacy, etc. Total depravity.
Yes, the short term goal is definitely pedophilia and that has been true since John Money.
Yep. Once they get across the idea that yes, children CAN make "informed consent" for medical treatments and surgery, then, well, obviously they can consent to sex. It's one of the major goals. You'll never convince me it's not.
If the goal is depopulation, which clearly it is, why not abort the genitals of those young people Planned Parenthood missed?
All roads lead to Rome when you got lots of destruction to do.
It's sexual lobotomy
Also, to answer your question: No, I see absolutely no difference in the man's face and Adam's apple that could not be accounted for by a little post-surgical weight loss (something that is of course entirely predictable when a surgeon plays around with the throat and nose).
I concur with you about the fact that the only way to successfully deal with this horrible eugenics psy-op in which we find ourselves is to say "No!" to all of it. I have been wondering how so few people seem to be anywhere near troubled enough by this movement and it's depredations for well over five years at this point.
I have been wondering just what it might take to cause enough people to stand up against it and pushback against it properly. The Trump executive orders are all well and good - as far as they go, which I don't think is honestly far enough. Women and children are still suffering, even in the US. Things are much worse in countries like Australia and New Zealand.
Yes, and you agree with the vast majority of the comments on that video--some of which really roasted him.
It will most likely take lawsuits to end this finally, like with opioids. We just have to hold the line until then.
I'm afraid the Trump biological sex legislation is just throwing crumbs to the peasants as they distract all of us from implementing Real ID in the USA. Once it's in place, they will roll out their Totalitarian Central Bank Digital Currency. DO NOT COMPLY
Adults capable of giving consent CAN do whatever they please, as long as it is not illegal. If they choose to indulge a compulsion, and can pay for that indulgence, no one can stop them. What they CAN'T do is force everyone to humor them in this compulsion. We need to continue to strengthen laws protecting women-only spaces, and there has been good progress in that regard. More and more folks are feeling confident that they can speak out against the TWAW nonsense and the law and the courts are protecting them. Transsexualism is a form of sexual exhibitionism. We need to continually shout that from the rooftops until the world acknowledges it.
Adults cannot demand lobotomies or endless opioids or endless Adderrall for weight loss if they're anorexics.
This isn't about consenting adults. This is a medical scandal involving healthcare, laws, insurance, money, public policy, lawsuits.
If this boils down to just men wearing dresses, you need to say that and be specific. But that will always devolve into men making more demands, so they need to be told NO just like people who binge food are told to avoid triggers like donuts.
There is no way to pass laws to strengthen women-only spaces if we tell men that they're adults and they can do what they want. What they want to do is be declared women--and it has worked. The problem starts in the doctor's office, which goes back to my original point.
People have all sorts of cosmetic surgery that is dangerous; some even die from it. Being able to take risks with your choices in life is what being an adult is all about. I don't want the government deciding for us what elective surgeries we can opt or and which not. There are people who have had "transitioning" treatments who are doing well and are perfectly happy; trying to ban these treatments for adults is not a wise use of political capital.
Pat, this is not cosmetic surgery, just like lobotomies and removing healthy limbs are not cosmetic. Doctors say no to those all the time.
This man isn't just looking for cosmetics. I explained this in the article, and multiple times previously. He got himself declared a woman legally, changed his documents, and now will cause all sorts of problems.
Now 15% of prisoners in female prisons are male. Do you understand that is inevitable, if you try the ADULTS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT nonsense?
I do not care if there is a small percentage of men who got nose jobs, call themselves Brenda, and are now happy with it.
There were people who got lobotomies and were fine--lobotomies were still banned because the overall damages in aggregate was too great.
So, no, it's not about governments. This is a medical scandal. The medical industry will stop when the lawsuits shut it down.
Until you understand that, you will spin your wheels in the mud with this CONSENTING ADULTS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT AND THEY'RE HAPPY! nonsense.
This will end. The government can tell people what to do everyday, in serious ways. The government comes down like a ton of bricks on people when it wants to. Let's stop acting like we live in libertarian paradise.
And if this is allowed for adults, the children are inevitable. Opening the gate to this flood means it's inexorable.
It all has to be stopped.
Yes. People like this guy are attempting to "normalize" and indeed romanticize these surgeries and entire "way of life" by promoting it all over social media, where impressionable children and adolescents spend so much of their time.
It is essentially immersive advertising carried out to a degree and intensity never previously thought possible by modern advertising executives. I find the promotion of these surgeries in such a manner unconscionable. Civilized societies should surely not promote chemical and surgical castration on their young? Considering who the most heavily affected cohorts are (the neurodivergent and young gays and lesbians) only reinforces to me how shockingly devoid of ethics and even basic human empathy those pushing and enabling this entire project are.
The idea of consenting adults having the freedom to do what they will to their bodies AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE is fundamental to the idea of a free people. Advocating for laws that would prohibit certain cosmetic procedures is an extremist position. There is no reason for us to go there; that way lies fascism.
There is a woman trying to make herself into a cat, and a man wanting to look like a snake. These are not things I would do to myself, but as long as they are doing this ON THEIR OWN DIME, it is none of my business nor yours nor the government's.
Men presenting as women doesn't make them women, but it also shouldn't make them the object of abuse of any kind. Tolerance is an important value in a democracy; there will always be folks doing things the rest of us don't consider "normal." But as long as they are not infringing on the rights, safety and opportunities of others we do not have the right to force them into conformity.
Pat, you do not seem to understand how the medical industry works.
Could you walk into a doctor's office and demand a lobotomy to pay for at your own expense? Or unlimited opioids to pay for at your own expense? Or removal of a healthy leg due to apotemnophilia at your own expense?
Explain.
Cosmetic surgery is not brain surgery, it is an elective surgery which patients ASK FOR. Even relatively limited cosmetic procedures can result in severe adverse effects, even death, because they generally require the administration of anesthesia, which is the most dangerous component of surgery. Are you calling for the prohibition of all cosmetic surgery?
Testosterone is not a schedule 1 drug, like opioids; it is classified as a schedule 3 drug, the lowest level of controlled substances; estrogen is not a classified drug at all. And yes, it is very common for patients to ASK doctors to prescribe specific drugs; it's the reason the pharmaceutical companies spend millions on advertising!
You are failing to make a distinction between types of surgery and drugs, and that is resulting in an over-simplification of the issue.
"BUT (THEY) ARE, BLANCHE!" Transwomen ARE infringing on the rights ( and privacy, safety and comfort) of others, namely women and girls, in formerly single-sex places such as showers, changing rooms, prisons, shelters, crisis centers and lesbian spaces wherein they are not invited.
There are different pathologies going on here. The old school tranny was messed up but generally not attention seeking. There is a whole other category now. It is a weird form of Narcissism. That is the bulk of what we are having trouble with. That has to be stopped. Because they will keep
Going.
I agree as personally I haven’t got the energy to worry about these psychic attention seeking vampires…
They look ridiculous at best, and eventually the trend will die out without attention, but we must insist on them not overriding the rights of women and children and stop teaching this ridiculous ideology in school which will only encourage this destructive behaviour…
It cannot be allowed without these men overriding women and children.
That is the goal, that will happen, and it will never stop.
Until everyone realizes that, we will continue spinning out wheels in the mud.
I wrote an entire article on this--adults cannot do whatever they want.
This take is nonsense.
Hey, adults used to be able to buy and own certain other adults and children here. Just because something’s legal doesn’t make it right.
What makes you think it will "die out". There were "Molly Houses" in the 1700's where men could go and indulge their desire to dress up as women.
Now we have a more extreme version of this where these men want to be able to claim they are "biological women".
It hasn't died out over the centuries, it will be harder to restrain it now.
Given this history the biggest annoyance for me is all the "men's rights activists" claiming this expansion of male power and control is the fault of feminism and the ridiculous notion of the "feminisation of society" which is supposedly causing the destruction of the West.
We’d better bring back the Bible.
The Bible is just a collection of re-worked texts from the very ancient Middle East. It is essentially borrowed literature from Sumer and Babylon such as the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh and the Babylonian myth of creation, the Enuma Elish. People who believe that the Bible is in any way the word of some "god" are just ignorant of the true origins of the book.
Pat, God bless you.
The gods Enki, Ra, Zeus, and Jupiter bless me the same as your storm god from a random Iron Age desert tribe does. That is, not at all -- they are all equally mythical.
Defending these mutilation surgeries makes me question your sanity.
Pat did say ‘legal’. Although sexual mutilation for anyone should not be legal.
Funny how that and another so-called “medical procedure” that demands the death of an innocent human child get written off as “health care.”
People have the right to mutilate their bodies, as they do with tattoos, piercings, scarification, and other "adornments." I don't want the government telling me what I can do to my body. On the other hand, I don't want to pay for other people's cosmetic surgery.
As for minors, we generally allow parents to make these kinds of decisions for their children, such as deciding against getting their kids vaccinated, even though that might lead to disability or even death.
What we can do is extend the statute of limitations on malpractice suits to the age of 40, strengthen statutes and regulations regarding informed consent, and put limits on the parental immunity doctrine which prohibits children from suing their parents. Parents who do not exercise due diligence in health care decisions for their children should be subject to lawsuits.
Nobody can do whatever they want to themselves.
You do not have the right to get a lobotomy or demand opioids when you're an addict or demand lipo if you're a 70 pound anorexic.
Until you understand that, you will misunderstand the issue. This isn't the government telling you what to do. It's medical industry scandal.
The government is automatically involved through healthcare law. It's insurance, money, laws, everything. So you are paying, everywhere.
Just stop with the platitudes. It's not government interference. It's basic reality. You do not have the right to do whatever you want.
I don't want my insurance premiums to subsidize Perverts' Fetish Makeovers, do you?
Most common surgery for men LARPing as lesbians is Breast Implants so they can stare at their own tits while watch themselves jack off in front of a mirror
Correct.
Adults cannot do whatever they want when it involves healthcare, insurance, laws, public policy, money, lawsuits.
This isn't about people just being left alone. We're way past that, and it's completely inane to pretend like this is about "consenting adults." That's what lead to all of this.
Most insurance policies don't cover elective cosmetic surgery, and once it becomes plain to insurance carriers that "affirming care" is not evidence based medicine, I think we will see these drug and surgery interventions dropped from coverage.
If this is recorded as a real condition in the DSM as it is, that's not elective cosmetic surgery.
This is covered by insurance, the ACA, even in prison for prisoners.
If you keep repeating adults can do whatever they want, it will remain so. It won't be dropped from coverage by claiming adults are free to do whatever.
Adults cannot do whatever they want. Otherwise, walk into a doctor's office and ask for a lobotomy or unlimited opioids. Watch what happens.
Dream on Pat. Transgender Medicine is a CASH COW for Globalist Technocrats who are sinking billions into artificial womb technology so they can grow their own worker slave drones. They've got an Agenda and they won't be stopped without force. Look how they've taken control of media, Academia, government and medicine to normalize disembodiment and they use lawyers and police to force their anti-human agenda on us. We're going to have to rebel. Start planning how NOW!
I wish that were true, however, insurance pays to circumcised baby boys in the US without blinking and there is "no medical benefit" according to the AAP, so fat chance.
Actually the AAP is officially neutral on newborn circumcision as it has both benefits (decreased risk of HPV & HIV infections, decreased neonatal urinary infections& decreased risk of ballanitis & penile cancer) as well as risks (bleeding & infection at time of procedure, risk of a botched procedure). Both risks & benefits are very small in Western world. So it is left to parents to decide.
I certainly agree with you about transsexualism sometimes being a form of sexual exhibitionism.
Don't complain "there's a man in the Women's Locker Room." Complain "someone in the Women's Lockers is displaying their genitals in a lewd and lascivious manner." Flashing is what they're about anyway.
Honestly, this is exactly the kind of man I’m talking about when I say:
There needs to be a new definition for this paraphilia. The group that has it includes, “flashers”, those dirty men that rub their privates up against you on public transport (clothed) and so forth, and these ⬆️ people.
They actually receive sexual gratification by causing shock, disgust and fear to women. They get off on the look on your face when you realize what’s going on.
“Exhibitionism” doesn’t cover it. The “flashers” don’t get off on feeling the cool night air on their penis, they get off on the visual (and visible) distress they cause to their victims, who are always women and girls. They don’t cause the same distress to males, most of whom would either laugh or sneer. Only to women and girls, and it is done intentionally. Therefore, going out looking and acting like this is a sex crime, and it needs to be treated as such.
Yes. They get off on causing fear and trepidation in women. I'm not saying that *all* of them do, but a fair old percentage of these men do seem to.
Also peepers. That's why transwomen are not satisfied with separate toilets/Locker rooms for themselves or gender neutral. It's voyeurism and exhibitionism. BTW, when flashed, say "that looks like a penis, only smaller!"
Or was that thing made from arm skin.
There is a category for them: SEXUAL DEVIANTS (they deviate from what is normal). And, what nobody is realizing is that this deviant mindset and behavior is CAUSED by PORNOGRAPHY. Porn addicts descend into increasing levels of sick videos that teach them this sick fetishtic stuff... incest, beastiality, trannyporn, and eventually pedophilia. How about Porn-twisted Perverts as a new category name.
Wanna get really pissed off? His treatments were all probably covered by SSID/Medicaid for his DISABILITIES. No more.
In California, yes probably. That is why adults cannot do whatever they want. This involves taxes and healthcare.
He is such a narcissist. Completely creepy and total autogynophile. Oh, and you’d think he would have done something about those nasty tiny grey teeth.
Male narcissism run amok
His mum looks tired and resigned to the embarrassment her son is causing her.
I feel bad for her. Why doesn't her husband/his father step in and do something to help his son?
Yeah because men can step in and take charge in our society with no consequences. I have no idea where the Dad is but other than teaching by example, which clearly didn’t work, there isn’t
A lot that can be done.
Practically though I have treated in my alt
Health practice many people with mental
Disorders successfully. Bi-polar, obsessional disorders, anger issues, panic disorder etc. BUT….real true personality disorders, Psychopathy/NPD/Borderline/Sociopathy etc, I have never seen anyone change. The best I have seen is someone learning their behaviour is causing themselves more harm than good. No real
Change but they ameliorate somewhat.
The point you make about personality disorders is of course perfectly true. I'm sure that guys like Tino by and large have some strain of NPD/ASPD - which should never be affirmed. Ever.
Mental health professionals should be all too well aware of this, so much so that it really does speak to the profits garnered by the medicalisation and reification of transgenderism.
Absolutely. So tired of theses morons..so tired of them acting like influencers.
Go hide in a closet where they belong
He's an autogynephillic MAN and a fuckin pervert! HE can get as many Frankenstein surgeries as he likes but he will always still be just an unimpressive, castrated MAN. I despise these trannie perverts, they knock me sick and should not be allowed anywhere near women or children!
Adults doing whatever they want means he will be in women's bathrooms, locker rooms, spas, gyms--there is no way to avoid it.
HE has an OF account, what kind of sick, twisted bastard would pay to see Pennywise getting his little pencil dick out...these freaks all have porn addled brains from watching vile hypno sissy porn! Beyond depraved and fuckin disgusting! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
It's such a horrible thought, isn't it?
Penny wise, 😆 You can't float with us.
If one of these demented trannie perverts even tries to enter a female only space I'm using or my daughter then they will be getting a good kick in the fuckin groin, I'm past caring at this stage! Arrest and charge me, couldn't give a flying fuck...been there done that, got the record to prove it!
I'm 5ft11 and trained in MMA so I fear NO cunt, especially not a man in a fuckin dress...fuck them, I really doNOT care anymore! I don't fuck around when it comes to my personal safety and I refuse to share any space with these depraved fuckin AGP freaks.
These men are crazy though. Pepper spray is a good option--spray and make sure you get out of there safely.
I can be real crazy myself when provoked!
I always carry a can of deet spray (legal) and a blade in my bag because modern problems require modern solutions! I'm not your typical female either, I'm 5ft11 and trained in MMA so I'm well able to take care of myself and as I said I fear NO cunt. I'm hyper vigilant permanently when out and about nowadays, it's not just these perverts we have to worry about...we also need to protect ourselves against the 3rd World gimmegrant bastards who come from 3rd World shitholes where rape culture is the norm. So as women we need to take our own personal safety seriously and act accordingly. Time to unleash our inner demon hitches from hell sometimes!
Kudos! 👏🏻. Jane, I really like your passionate spirit.
How about with Pepperspray???
Another weird dude in a dress.
Sorry, but it makes me want to puke.
I’m not yet convinced that this will stop, at least in a hurry. The key difference bw the other disorders you list and this one, is that fetish is involved, imo. Men’s sexual demands trump all. Ethics out the window. I’d love to hear counter arguments.
It will take some time. But stopping lobotomies and opioids took time too.
What won't work is trying the "adults can do what they want!" nonsense.
It's more than nonsense... it's Moral Relativity which leads to totalitarian slavery. Post Modernism claptrap.