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Dragonmama's avatar

An adult male may be so feminine in appearance and presentation that he is routinely mistaken for female in casual social contexts. Not often, but it happens. It's much more common for an adult female to be so masculine that she is routinely mistaken for a male. Both of these are okay.

However, it is not a change of sex. In any situation where sex actually matters, the boundaries must be held by sex.

Most situations in society are unisex. It simply doesn't matter (or shouldn't matter) whether the human ordering a hamburger is male or female. Anyone is free to choose a style as masculine or feminine as they wish, regardless of sex. No need to legislate fashion.

Apparently we do need to legislate an adherence to reality. Humans cannot change sex.

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Kitty Finesse's avatar

lol at the three year old clocking “Lily” Tino

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

That poor three year old was probably scared out her mind

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Lida H.'s avatar

That Tino guy is so disgusting - in every single way possible. I see a lot of people querying whether or not he's merely a "rage baiter", but they truly miss the point. It doesn't matter what his particular motivations are.

He should be told "No!" at every possible opportunity. As a matter of principle.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

He's so gross that he's actually a secret TERF trying to sabotage this from within lol

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Nicki M.'s avatar

This!.....🎯💯

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Lila Jones's avatar

"Just remember you heard it from TERFs first! "

And to think all along I thought Matt Walsh was breaking this news 🤯

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

I don't think he can say stuff like this directly because the libertarian/small govt types are still too scared, but he'll claim he was the first still, lol

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erin's avatar

It's really starting to piss me off that we constantly have to deal with this bullshit when our world is falling apart due to serious problems like mass government theft, endless wars, debt-forced global pillage, and money that's been turned to shit.

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Barbyrabaker's avatar

I laughed when he said he decided he didn’t have to pee after all and just left. I have never known a woman who could do that.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Lol yes!

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erin's avatar

Isn't it amazing how so many people just accepted that some folks are "born in the wrong body." I mean... someone just pulled that out of a hat, and it gets parroted about like it's Science TM.

Ludicrous.

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Bridget's avatar

God doesn’t make mistakes. Of course, people who want to pretend we can change our biological sex don’t really believe in Him or His Word.

But they sure believe in cutting, sewing, shaving and trimming down certain parts of the human anatomy like a modern day Leonardo Di Vinci. It must frustrate them they can’t change male DNA into female DNA, and visa versa, though.

Hey, maybe they’re coming out with a vaxx for that, too! Super safe and effective, but won’t stop the spread of this mind virus.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

You are absolutely correct about this!

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Yes, but it will take time to convince people because it sounds reasonable to say "adults can do whatever they want!"

But in a few years everyone will see this is untenable.

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Hunterson7's avatar

"NO". Brilliant and concise. Thank you.

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Tracie P's avatar

Lily Tino made a video saying Transwomen are more scared of women than we are of them. What? Like creepy crawlies? Oh I get it. The audacity for him to say he is the unsafe one boils my blood. The thought process he refers to is one women live with their whole life and not by choice, unlike Mr Tino. I've had it with these creeps.

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Chris's avatar

Not playing along with this nonsense is another “adult option”

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Dusty Masterson's avatar

Totally agree with all of that, Kat.

Have cross posted

https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/its-a-mad-mad-mad-mad-world

Dusty

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Thanks!

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Rex Landy's avatar

All men are men.

With you all the way.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Yes!

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Sufeitzy's avatar

Great logic: don’t give in to delusion.

I’d be careful about saying the market is billions - that’s a figure concocted by market research from Indian scam companies, which is endless junk. It’s much more modest in reality. It is a small fraction of current plastic surgery surgical procedures - which are around $USB 9. It will not be 25% of all plastic surgery, at the most about 0.3% trans in population and and 5% who commit to surgery; at highest in the range of tens of millions annually.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Yes, I was thinking of the GMI report that the sexual reassigment market would be worth $2 billion by 2032. That is a reference to surgeries alone. So it does not include hormones, blockers, medications, which are very expensive. Altogether I think it's safe to say billions.

https://www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

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Sufeitzy's avatar

That is exactly what I meant: it is an Indian “Market Research” scam farm that cranks out fake market research documents by mashing actual market research reports to and coming up with plausible sounding figures, likely with AI.

If you don’t work in business, business statistics or strategy, these websites seem legitimate. But transgender surgery cannot be 25% of the total cosmetic surgery market in a few years; it doesn’t pass a sanity check.

These are from computationally generated websites which charge $4500 or so for a “market report” which is made-up data on any variety of subjects. Virtually every single medical condition they carry research on has identical market curves, even for medical conditions with declining prevalence. These become very bad garbage when PR newswire services create a conduit into search engines by re-circulating nonsense data. “Citagenesis”.

Here’s a scam

https://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

Here’s your scam

https://www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

Similar

https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20sex%20reassignment%20surgery,11.25%25%20from%202023%20to%202030.

What you’ll notice is the peculiar website formatting with justified type, identical logo structure, hospital citation structure and similar curves for every single illness they do “research” on.

Given a day or two I could generate 100’s over these with OpenAI.

Then they get cited - “citagenesis” where the fake data is not under a “yahoo” imprint so it seems more real.

A yahoo citation of a report from Pune India

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sex-reassignment-surgery-market-worth-102900490.html

Pune India is not exactly a world leader in research insights on trans healthcare, unless I’m behind the times.

They copy each other

https://www.novaoneadvisor.com/report/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market

“Technavio”

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gender-reassignment-surgery-market-to-grow-by-usd-374-2-million-2025-2029-rise-in-people-opting-for-sex-change-surgeries-globally-boosts-market-report-on-ai-redefining-market-landscape---technavio-302363594.html

Another copycat junk site

https://www.delveinsight.com/report-store/gender-dysphoria-market

More junk

https://www.visionresearchreports.com/us-sex-reassignment-hormone-therapy-market/40762

Another junk

https://www.marketresearchfuture.com/reports/gender-dysphoria-market-40983

And the next dozen + 2

https://www.sphericalinsights.com/reports/united-states-sex-reassignment-hormone-therapy-market

https://www.zionmarketresearch.com/report/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

https://www.acumenresearchandconsulting.com/sex-reassignment-surgery-market/amp

https://www.reportsanddata.com/report-detail/gender-dysphoria-market

https://www.researchandmarkets.com/report/transgender-surgery?srsltid=AfmBOop1ITaJ_RbLsqqaDzzz0trMTB9OLDBJgU71Ky_jZzmymeWrZo19

https://www.verifiedmarketresearch.com/product/sex-reassignment-surgery-market/

https://www.coherentmarketinsights.com/industry-reports/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

https://www.polarismarketresearch.com/industry-analysis/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

https://www.acumenresearchandconsulting.com/pressreleases/sex-reassignment-surgery-market/amp

https://www.visionresearchreports.com/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market/39584

https://www.theinsightpartners.com/reports/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

https://www.giiresearch.com/report/anvi1408918-sex-reassignment-surgery-market-by-gender.html

https://www.valuemarketresearch.com/report/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

https://www.coherentmarketinsights.com/industry-reports/sex-reassignment-surgery-market/regional-analysis

Jennifer Bilek has apparently bought into the junk data and is circulating it herself in her data on the industry.

Actual data

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7929723/

If you used first principles analysis from clinics and insurance data you get a figure which is 100x smaller.

Basic surgery to damage a healthy body is $5000. I’ve read the insurance and other data. Synthetic hormones are made from animal fats (cholesterols) or plant fats (in soybeans and yams) in a ln extremely cheap process - you can buy kilos of powdered Testosterones (there are a variety of conjugates which change molecular weights) or Estrogens for a few $$’s from bulk medical supply. Generic estrogens are $10 a month, $120 a year, $5000 a lifetime.

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letterwriter's avatar

you need to think about how expensive it is to be a pain, autoimmune, endocrine, osteoporosis, cancer, therapy, and revision surgery patient. The initial chopping is not where it stops.

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Sufeitzy's avatar

According to the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual of the American Psychiatric association (5th edition), .0085% of the US population is “gender dysphoric”. Only 5-7% of dysphoric individuals undertake irreversible medical procedures.

330M x .0085% x 5% = 1400 people.

1400 x $5000 = $7M cost, not billing, cost

Removing external organs is cheap and inexpensive. Farmers do gelding on their own.

Muscle-sparing mastectomies are simple compared to an appendectomy.

They could be on hormones the rest of their life for $12 a month cost

1400 x $12 x 12 x 50 = $8M

Again, this is not big business. Compared to trillion dollar health spend, compared to plastic surgery, it’s not even close to a nose job.

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letterwriter's avatar

The people receiving these "treatments" are not solely those with "true" gender dysphoria. They are not evaluated for that; they are taken on faith. Social contagion of AGP and of girlish trends are the drivers and these trendlines are what matter. It looks like you're trying to undermine the observations that this is big business by trying to inflict a thousand cuts. Too bad you're using patently faulty use of stats and trying to trap others in the trap you seem to be in: the one that a student should be out of by finals time in Stats 101.

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Sufeitzy's avatar

I’m sorry, but to make numeric claims it requires numbers. You cite no numbers so unfortunately, your claims on metrics are meaningless. Furthermore, I’ve shown literally dozens of faked reports on the dimensions of financials from trans medicalization.

You can continue proposing whatever you want as opinion, I’ve provided data, sources, and based my opinion on reason, not feeling. I’d be the first to claim a pecuniary focus for trans ideology, which I’ve sought, but I cannot find an iota of evidence for those claims. All evidence provided in ordinary search of “research companies” is fake, and that from reputable sources (insurance claims, multiple NiH papers) is orders of magnitude less than claimed.

I did my homework, you can too. I am not alone in this assessment.

Like claims that trans “genocide” is a global catastrophe, the numbers show that it’s a false claim. Male trans have a deaths rate from violence at half that of all males when the basic arithmetic is done.

Abuse of children during adolescent anxiety is leveraged by trans as part of a process of maximizing the ambiguity of their actual sex, recruiting into it. It actually has little to do with pharmaceuticals, and more to do with ever more elaborate schemes to mimic women.

Trans men (mimesexuals) impersonate women to avoid male competition for sex, and to have access to female collectives. The most brutal form of this is mimesexuals in women’s prison, guaranteed exclusive access for heterosexual sex. It also drives the desire to access lesbian collectives (zero competition), feminist collectives. In another brutal form it drives access to female-only sports providing particularly vivid examples of “Lia Thomas” indulging in full access to female team members nude, without their consent, as he develops erections.

This is why actual surgery is quite rare, and basically unwanted. Surgery is sterilizing and extinguishes sex drive, which is not why mimisexuality wants access to female collectives, without male competition. It is for sexual fulfillment.

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Alison's avatar

Good job on this. I appreciate how you make your points clearly and directly. Makes me think.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Hey, thanks! I hope you enjoyed reading it.

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Bethany Ward's avatar

Omg FINALLY! Thank you!

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Oli Blah blah's avatar

Spot on Kat.

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